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In the retirement income game, nothing says flexibility quite like a Roth Individual Retirement Account (IRA). Consider the following: Assets in a Roth IRA accumulate tax-free. You pay no taxes on qualified distributions. You'll never have to take required minimum distributions (RMDs) from a Roth IRA, unlike with traditional IRAs and 401(k) accounts. And Roth assets can pass tax-free to heirs.
That's why some investors nearing retirement—and even those in it—prefer to convert some of the savings in their tax-deferred traditional IRAs and 401(k) accounts into Roth assets. (Plus, having money diversified by tax treatment across tax-deferred, tax-free, and regular taxable brokerage accounts can actually help lower your tax liability over time.)
One challenge is that taxes are due on any sums you convert—but that's less an argument against conversions and more of one in favor of careful planning. In fact, planning to make a series of conversions could help lower the total amount of taxes you pay over time. And the recent market drops could make conversions even more appealing, as converting assets at depressed prices could lower the resulting taxes.
Who can benefit from conversions?
Roth conversions generally make the most sense for people who expect to be in a higher tax bracket when they start taking withdrawals than they are at the time they convert the assets. In other words, it's better to pay a lower tax rate on a conversion today than a higher rate on a withdrawal tomorrow. It's also worth noting that tax rates are fairly low by historical standards, so conversions can also make sense if you think rates will be higher in the future.
People with large sums saved in tax-deferred accounts who expect to get hit with large RMDs later in life could also consider converting.
Finally, the longer the time horizon before you expect to make withdrawals from the Roth account, the greater the potential tax advantage. At a minimum, you shouldn't need to touch those assets for at least five years—the length of time the IRS generally requires assets to be held in a Roth before tax- and penalty-free distributions can be made1—but it's best to have an even longer time frame so you can benefit more from tax-free growth.
What are the tradeoffs?
- Taxes are due in the year of conversion. You'll need to weigh the opportunity cost of using funds now to pay taxes on a Roth conversion versus paying taxes later. (For that matter, it's also a good idea to have funds available in a bank or brokerage account to pay the taxes on the conversion.) A Roth conversion could also impact the potential tax deductions and credits available to you, since you'll be counting the converted amount as income. In addition, a conversion can increase taxes on Social Security benefits and how much you pay for Medicare premiums. So, it's important to meet with a tax professional to ensure that a conversion won't hurt you unexpectedly.
- You can't undo a Roth conversion. Prior to passage of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA) in 2017, investors could reverse—or recharacterize—a Roth conversion. The TCJA put an end to that. Once the transaction is complete, you can't reverse it.
- You can't cherry pick the after-tax contributions for conversion. If you have both pre- and after-tax contributions in your account, you can't choose to convert just the after-tax portion to avoid taxes. The IRS' pro rata rules will treat the conversion as a mix of pre- and after-tax assets, according to their proportion in your account. So, if 5% of your account is in after-tax dollars, 5% of your conversion will be tax-free.
Lump conversion or installments?
As noted, a Roth conversion will increase your taxable income, so think carefully about how much you convert in any single year. One approach, called tax bracket management, involves planning out how much income you recognize each year—for example, from asset sales and Roth conversions, as well as taxable income-reducing moves like tax-loss harvesting and charitable giving—to help ensure you stay in the lowest-possible tax bracket.
As you might imagine, converting a huge chunk of assets in one year could push into a higher bracket and expose you to higher taxes overall than if you'd converted in smaller batches over several years. In the chart below, we see that doing a single large conversion pushes the investor into the 35% tax bracket, meaning every extra dollar of income will be taxed at that rate. Smaller Roth conversions over time could keep the investor in the 24% tax bracket.

Source: Schwab Center for Financial Research.
Assumes a $80,000 Roth conversion in a single year versus spreading an $80,000 Roth conversion over multiple years. The example is hypothetical and shown for illustrative purposes only. Tax brackets representative of 2022 ordinary income tax brackets with future years assuming tax bracket growth of 2.5% and income growth of 5%.
Conversions in action
Here's an example of how someone focused on tax bracket management could execute multiple conversions and save on taxes.
Emmeline is a 60-year-old single investor who just retired. She has $2 million of retirement assets in a tax-deferred 401(k), but she would like more flexibility in retirement by having some assets in a Roth account. To maximize her Social Security benefits, she wants to delay filing until age 70.
Emmeline's financial plan calls for the following: For the first 10 years of retirement, withdrawals from her 401(k) to support her spending will place her in the 22% tax bracket. But then at age 70, Social Security starts, and two years later RMDs will kick in. Combined, that would give her more money than she expects to need and push her into the 24% tax bracket for the final 15 years of a 35-year retirement, as you can see in the chart below.
Retirement cashflows without a Roth conversion

Source: Schwab Center for Financial Research.
This example is hypothetical and provided for illustrative purposes only. Assumes a single, 60-year-old investor with a planned 35-year retirement. Retirement expenses assumed to be $65,000 inflated at 2.5% and an initial $2 million 401(k) portfolio with no other assets, allocated to a 60% equities / 40% bonds and assumed portfolio return of 4.92%. Individual situations will vary.
To avoid this, Emmeline could calculate how much she needs to support her spending each year and then convert just enough 401(k) assets to keep her in the lower tax bracket until RMDs kick in at 72. As a result, she'd gain all the previously mentioned benefits Roth accounts offer, lower her future RMDs and stay out of the 24% tax bracket for all but a few years of her retirement, saving her more than $67,000 in tax liabilities in retirement.
Retirement cashflows with multiple Roth conversions

Source: Schwab Center for Financial Research.
This example is hypothetical and provided for illustrative purposes only. Assumes a single, 60-year-old investor with a planned 35-year retirement. Retirement expenses assumed to be $65,000 inflated at 2.5% and an initial $2 million 401(k) portfolio with no other assets, allocated to a 60% equities / 40% bonds and assumed portfolio return of 4.92%. Individual situations will vary.
Get help if you need it
Everyone's situation is different, and this sort of planning can be difficult without help from a professional. That's why it makes sense to work with a tax advisor who can help project your taxable income, your tax bracket, and the potential impact on your tax bill before committing to any major changes to your retirement savings.
1All withdrawals can be taken out tax-free and penalty-free providing you're 59½ or older and you have met the minimum account holding period (currently five years). See IRS publication 590-B for details about the Roth IRA 5-year rule for contributions and the Roth conversion 5 year rule. See also IRC §408A(d)(2), §72(t), Treas. Reg. §1.408A-6.
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